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		By: RADhelper		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2019 18:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To everyone with a RAD child.
1) Your child is not bad, just hurting (&quot;how bad do I have to be before you throw me away too?&quot;). Even if they will do bad things, it is just a defense mechanism because someone else (caregiver, which you are now their caregiver) has hurt them.
2) Say what you mean and mean what you say! This is very important because if a child knows that you are consistent and you say what you mean, then he will feel safe
3) the inside matches the outside. The child is so disruptive because his inside is filled with turmoil, so the child needs the outside to match as well. 
4) NEVER EVER LET YOUR THERAPIST TALK WITH THE CHILD ALONE! This is very, very, very important! When a child is alone with a therapist it can make the child worse, look at this dialogue (paraphrased from an ACTUAL conversation) 
Child: &quot;hello Mrs. therapist I had chicken and peas for dinner last night.&quot;
Therapist: &quot;oh good for you, that sounds like a well balanced meal.&quot;
Child: (in head) &quot;You&#039;re so stupid! I had pizza for dinner, I can&#039;t trust you because you can&#039;t keep me safe [from myself].&quot;
Or the child will tell lies about the parent and the therapist will fall for it hook, line, and sinker.
5) I advise Jim Fay&#039;s &quot;Helicopters, drill sergeants, and consultants.&quot; book, contacting Respite Retreat, and Nancy Thomas&#039;s &quot;when love is not enough&quot; and other series.  Do not let your child listen to, or read, the material; they will learn how to evade, or be immune to it. 
I hope this was helpful!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To everyone with a RAD child.<br />
1) Your child is not bad, just hurting (&#8220;how bad do I have to be before you throw me away too?&#8221;). Even if they will do bad things, it is just a defense mechanism because someone else (caregiver, which you are now their caregiver) has hurt them.<br />
2) Say what you mean and mean what you say! This is very important because if a child knows that you are consistent and you say what you mean, then he will feel safe<br />
3) the inside matches the outside. The child is so disruptive because his inside is filled with turmoil, so the child needs the outside to match as well.<br />
4) NEVER EVER LET YOUR THERAPIST TALK WITH THE CHILD ALONE! This is very, very, very important! When a child is alone with a therapist it can make the child worse, look at this dialogue (paraphrased from an ACTUAL conversation)<br />
Child: &#8220;hello Mrs. therapist I had chicken and peas for dinner last night.&#8221;<br />
Therapist: &#8220;oh good for you, that sounds like a well balanced meal.&#8221;<br />
Child: (in head) &#8220;You&#8217;re so stupid! I had pizza for dinner, I can&#8217;t trust you because you can&#8217;t keep me safe [from myself].&#8221;<br />
Or the child will tell lies about the parent and the therapist will fall for it hook, line, and sinker.<br />
5) I advise Jim Fay&#8217;s &#8220;Helicopters, drill sergeants, and consultants.&#8221; book, contacting Respite Retreat, and Nancy Thomas&#8217;s &#8220;when love is not enough&#8221; and other series.  Do not let your child listen to, or read, the material; they will learn how to evade, or be immune to it.<br />
I hope this was helpful!</p>
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		By: AJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2019 00:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thechaosandtheclutter.com/archives/wish-knew-parenting-child-rad#comment-138382&quot;&gt;Step mom of RAD kiddo&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t blame you for your views.  I think that adoption agencies do a poor job of informing people about what&#039;s involved when they adopt children who&#039;ve been traumatized.  It is extremely difficult to raise children with RAD.  Unless someone has gone through this, there is no way for them to understand or even conceptualize what we&#039;re saying.  When someone is being loved and cared for, the natural response is for them to be drawn to you and to love you back.  Not so, with these children.  They seem to reject you even harder, the more you love them.  Think very very long and hard before adopting children with trauma.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thechaosandtheclutter.com/archives/wish-knew-parenting-child-rad#comment-138382">Step mom of RAD kiddo</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t blame you for your views.  I think that adoption agencies do a poor job of informing people about what&#8217;s involved when they adopt children who&#8217;ve been traumatized.  It is extremely difficult to raise children with RAD.  Unless someone has gone through this, there is no way for them to understand or even conceptualize what we&#8217;re saying.  When someone is being loved and cared for, the natural response is for them to be drawn to you and to love you back.  Not so, with these children.  They seem to reject you even harder, the more you love them.  Think very very long and hard before adopting children with trauma.</p>
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		By: Ginger		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 04:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has anyone else dealt with this with their biological child? We cannot, for the life of us understand why, when our child, now 17, grew up in a normal nourishing home and family with us.  There was a sexual trauma at the hands of her bio dad at 13 but these issues began at age 8. She has always sought out relationships with other adults and has no appropriate boundaries.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone else dealt with this with their biological child? We cannot, for the life of us understand why, when our child, now 17, grew up in a normal nourishing home and family with us.  There was a sexual trauma at the hands of her bio dad at 13 but these issues began at age 8. She has always sought out relationships with other adults and has no appropriate boundaries.</p>
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		By: nissa		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2019 15:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thechaosandtheclutter.com/archives/wish-knew-parenting-child-rad#comment-167850&quot;&gt;Concerned mother in law&lt;/a&gt;.

Like you said  it is hard to know what is really true if she is a RAD child,  but unless she asks for help, it is better to give them their space to figure things out. Right not, it seems like they are happy, and every marriage (RAD or not) has issues.  Poking into her business could jeopardize your relationship with them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thechaosandtheclutter.com/archives/wish-knew-parenting-child-rad#comment-167850">Concerned mother in law</a>.</p>
<p>Like you said  it is hard to know what is really true if she is a RAD child,  but unless she asks for help, it is better to give them their space to figure things out. Right not, it seems like they are happy, and every marriage (RAD or not) has issues.  Poking into her business could jeopardize your relationship with them.</p>
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		By: kikilo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2019 01:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My prayers are with all RAD parents.  I wanted to ask about responding to child services.  The police cal child services, volunteary case management comes out.  They tell you to call the police]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My prayers are with all RAD parents.  I wanted to ask about responding to child services.  The police cal child services, volunteary case management comes out.  They tell you to call the police</p>
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		By: Concerned mother in law		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Concerned mother in law]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2019 19:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My 27 year old son married a young lady who was adopted from India at 20 month.  It was a long distance relationship (they met online). After they  were married I started to see some unusual behavior.  Her mother denies any attachment issues when I tried to bring that up via email (even though her moms&#039; comments in the past  have lead me to believe they had more than just &quot;normal&quot; concerns when she was growing up) so they never received any counseling. My daughter-in-law says her mom is unpredictable, insensitive and highly critical.  I have seen this myself. I don&#039;t know what to believe - were her parents clueless while she was growing up or was she just so resistant, detached and angry that they couldn&#039;t do much with her?  She and my son have now been married for almost 3 years and I&#039;m waiting for my son to realize that many of  her problems may stem from early childhood trauma/attachment disorder.  He is just seems to try to cover for her and protect her.  She has him believing hat her mother doesn&#039;t love her - and from what I can see and hear it is easy to believe. Personally, the more I read, the more I think her mom just didn&#039;t knew hat she was up against and perhaps she didn&#039;t attach to her daughter either.  Her mom makes it obvious that she doesn&#039;t trust her to raise the grandchildren (a 1 1/2 yr. old and one on the way).  I am also concerned about them, as well as my son and daughter-in-law.  How could they find a properly trained therapist if/when they seek help?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 27 year old son married a young lady who was adopted from India at 20 month.  It was a long distance relationship (they met online). After they  were married I started to see some unusual behavior.  Her mother denies any attachment issues when I tried to bring that up via email (even though her moms&#8217; comments in the past  have lead me to believe they had more than just &#8220;normal&#8221; concerns when she was growing up) so they never received any counseling. My daughter-in-law says her mom is unpredictable, insensitive and highly critical.  I have seen this myself. I don&#8217;t know what to believe &#8211; were her parents clueless while she was growing up or was she just so resistant, detached and angry that they couldn&#8217;t do much with her?  She and my son have now been married for almost 3 years and I&#8217;m waiting for my son to realize that many of  her problems may stem from early childhood trauma/attachment disorder.  He is just seems to try to cover for her and protect her.  She has him believing hat her mother doesn&#8217;t love her &#8211; and from what I can see and hear it is easy to believe. Personally, the more I read, the more I think her mom just didn&#8217;t knew hat she was up against and perhaps she didn&#8217;t attach to her daughter either.  Her mom makes it obvious that she doesn&#8217;t trust her to raise the grandchildren (a 1 1/2 yr. old and one on the way).  I am also concerned about them, as well as my son and daughter-in-law.  How could they find a properly trained therapist if/when they seek help?</p>
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		By: Maria		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2018 01:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All these comments hit home, time and time again.  We have survived 3 adoptions from Ukraine---all of them had/have RAD as well as FAS.  It is a devastating diagnosis, to both children and family.   However, we did discover, albeit too late for our family, a wonderful institute that understands and helps heal RAD.  Please, all you beautiful adoptive warrior moms out there, look up:  Institute of Attachment and Development, in Colorado.   The younger your child, the more they can help.  However, moms, while our brains, bodies and hearts are left bereft and devastated, we also know that this is a LONG journey, and 15 years is only a part of it.  Have patience with yourselves and....Faith--Faith gives us a bigger perspective about what is good and right---and when these children leave our homes,   find your peace and health again.  I&#039;ve heard that in some cases, healing occurs, over time.   We are beginning to experience some bonding and healing with our oldest daughter, 23--I&#039;m too brain-dead to repeat what she put herself and us through.  But with some distance, good boundaries and patience---six years later she is growing in her own way, and beginning to trust and love my husband and me.    Every little bit of healing brings so much solace!  So, yes, there is hope.  Hugs and prayers for healing for all of you!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these comments hit home, time and time again.  We have survived 3 adoptions from Ukraine&#8212;all of them had/have RAD as well as FAS.  It is a devastating diagnosis, to both children and family.   However, we did discover, albeit too late for our family, a wonderful institute that understands and helps heal RAD.  Please, all you beautiful adoptive warrior moms out there, look up:  Institute of Attachment and Development, in Colorado.   The younger your child, the more they can help.  However, moms, while our brains, bodies and hearts are left bereft and devastated, we also know that this is a LONG journey, and 15 years is only a part of it.  Have patience with yourselves and&#8230;.Faith&#8211;Faith gives us a bigger perspective about what is good and right&#8212;and when these children leave our homes,   find your peace and health again.  I&#8217;ve heard that in some cases, healing occurs, over time.   We are beginning to experience some bonding and healing with our oldest daughter, 23&#8211;I&#8217;m too brain-dead to repeat what she put herself and us through.  But with some distance, good boundaries and patience&#8212;six years later she is growing in her own way, and beginning to trust and love my husband and me.    Every little bit of healing brings so much solace!  So, yes, there is hope.  Hugs and prayers for healing for all of you!!</p>
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		By: Maria		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maria]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2018 04:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thechaosandtheclutter.com/archives/wish-knew-parenting-child-rad#comment-164869&quot;&gt;Marilyn&lt;/a&gt;.

Marylin, I am a 15 year-RAD survivor mom of three RAD children.  Too many years too late, I discovered the Instituted of Attachment and Child Development in Colorado that really &quot;gets&quot; RAD.   The only problem is that education almost needs to come from professionals and not the parents, because family and friends do not really believe us.  Worse, when the child becomes independent, they triangulate almost every person close to the mother, and one by one, those family members and friends look at the mom as the bad parent.  I have been told that my children reject me because I am a &quot;micromanager&quot;, &quot;overcontrolling&quot;, &quot;dysfunctional&quot;, and have questionable parenting styles, (and this by a sister who has no kids).   Lke all these mothers state, it is an utterly exhausting, heart-rendering journey of endless effort.  Being a RAD mom has been the most grueling, challenging journey of my life, a journey I could not have handled without Faith and belief that those children are also God&#039;s, and deserve to be loved, no matter how hard it was and continues to be.  Our love has to become a mantra of unconditional love, unconditional, unconditional, without expecting any return, or warmth, or loving feelings.  A Catholic psychologist and father of 10 adopted kids told me: &quot;Love is not a cushy feeling:  real love is doing what is right....and good.&quot;   And that is the bottom line, the song you pull up in your heart, day in, day out, when every attempt you make is seen by your child&#039;s distorted lenses as something hostile.  Part of the RAd diagnosis is that as they mature, RAd Children will tend to forget all the wonderful memories, and focus solely on their negative feelings.  They do project their past trauma and resentments onto their adoptive parents, and as the Institute of Attachment explains, they make their adoptive moms the &quot;nurturing enemy&quot;.  Therefore,  only people who can help HAVE to be trained RAD specialists.  A good RAD therapy will always, always support, support, support the parents.   And if we do not give up, but continue loving them the best we can while sustaining clear boundaries, they do grow in tiny increments, a little bit every year that they mature.   My oldest RAD 23 year old daughter  is now bonding with me and shows me some affection, but that only happened after she lived on her own for six years (and they were VERY rough years!)  I know now that their healing from RAD may be a 300 year journey---and I am now at peace with my limitations, accepting that I cannot make them whole the way I once thought my heart could do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thechaosandtheclutter.com/archives/wish-knew-parenting-child-rad#comment-164869">Marilyn</a>.</p>
<p>Marylin, I am a 15 year-RAD survivor mom of three RAD children.  Too many years too late, I discovered the Instituted of Attachment and Child Development in Colorado that really &#8220;gets&#8221; RAD.   The only problem is that education almost needs to come from professionals and not the parents, because family and friends do not really believe us.  Worse, when the child becomes independent, they triangulate almost every person close to the mother, and one by one, those family members and friends look at the mom as the bad parent.  I have been told that my children reject me because I am a &#8220;micromanager&#8221;, &#8220;overcontrolling&#8221;, &#8220;dysfunctional&#8221;, and have questionable parenting styles, (and this by a sister who has no kids).   Lke all these mothers state, it is an utterly exhausting, heart-rendering journey of endless effort.  Being a RAD mom has been the most grueling, challenging journey of my life, a journey I could not have handled without Faith and belief that those children are also God&#8217;s, and deserve to be loved, no matter how hard it was and continues to be.  Our love has to become a mantra of unconditional love, unconditional, unconditional, without expecting any return, or warmth, or loving feelings.  A Catholic psychologist and father of 10 adopted kids told me: &#8220;Love is not a cushy feeling:  real love is doing what is right&#8230;.and good.&#8221;   And that is the bottom line, the song you pull up in your heart, day in, day out, when every attempt you make is seen by your child&#8217;s distorted lenses as something hostile.  Part of the RAd diagnosis is that as they mature, RAd Children will tend to forget all the wonderful memories, and focus solely on their negative feelings.  They do project their past trauma and resentments onto their adoptive parents, and as the Institute of Attachment explains, they make their adoptive moms the &#8220;nurturing enemy&#8221;.  Therefore,  only people who can help HAVE to be trained RAD specialists.  A good RAD therapy will always, always support, support, support the parents.   And if we do not give up, but continue loving them the best we can while sustaining clear boundaries, they do grow in tiny increments, a little bit every year that they mature.   My oldest RAD 23 year old daughter  is now bonding with me and shows me some affection, but that only happened after she lived on her own for six years (and they were VERY rough years!)  I know now that their healing from RAD may be a 300 year journey&#8212;and I am now at peace with my limitations, accepting that I cannot make them whole the way I once thought my heart could do.</p>
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		By: Kat		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2018 20:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thechaosandtheclutter.com/archives/wish-knew-parenting-child-rad#comment-157679&quot;&gt;Deb&lt;/a&gt;.

We put our 14yo in a rigorous military-style Teen Challenge program for 15 months. It was either that...or he was headed straight toward jail or death. It was really bad. He hasn&#039;t been home that long, so I can&#039;t say whether it&#039;s going to work out in the long run, but so far, so good. Not every boy is a success story in these places, but we now have a light at the end of the tunnel. Had absolutely no hope before. Not sure you&#039;ll see this; it&#039;s been a while since your post. Hope things get better for you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thechaosandtheclutter.com/archives/wish-knew-parenting-child-rad#comment-157679">Deb</a>.</p>
<p>We put our 14yo in a rigorous military-style Teen Challenge program for 15 months. It was either that&#8230;or he was headed straight toward jail or death. It was really bad. He hasn&#8217;t been home that long, so I can&#8217;t say whether it&#8217;s going to work out in the long run, but so far, so good. Not every boy is a success story in these places, but we now have a light at the end of the tunnel. Had absolutely no hope before. Not sure you&#8217;ll see this; it&#8217;s been a while since your post. Hope things get better for you.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2018 02:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am an early childhood educator and I am finishing a degree in early childhood.  As my final project, I am researching RAD.  My cousin, has a child with RAD and I had never heard of it until she was diagnosed. Her story is horrific and heartbreaking, as I am seeing in all your comments, she is not alone though.  I am so glad that I came across this site and have been able to read the parents side of dealing with RAD.  If there is anything you think I should include in my presentation, something you think young educators should know about RAD- I would love to hear from you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an early childhood educator and I am finishing a degree in early childhood.  As my final project, I am researching RAD.  My cousin, has a child with RAD and I had never heard of it until she was diagnosed. Her story is horrific and heartbreaking, as I am seeing in all your comments, she is not alone though.  I am so glad that I came across this site and have been able to read the parents side of dealing with RAD.  If there is anything you think I should include in my presentation, something you think young educators should know about RAD- I would love to hear from you.</p>
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