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		By: Geoff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2018 10:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thechaosandtheclutter.com/archives/6-things-i-learned-when-my-child-was-kidnapped#comment-130219&quot;&gt;Stu&lt;/a&gt;.

I went through exactly this experience and it is ongoing.  Very complicated as my wife took my children to Israel. I got them back through The Hague but was so flustered i split custody with her and she removed them from the US again.  It was all so strange I didn’t know how to think..I would like to be in touch, as fathers that go through this are not a minority but we are a minority’s in connecting and dealing with the reality of loss.  I’m sill at a loss and had symptathy before, and then as on as I allowed the children to be with the mother, when the judge took away her rights, i lost all authority. I never wanted them to not be with their mother..but i was played..it’s just heartbreaking.  You aren’t alone though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thechaosandtheclutter.com/archives/6-things-i-learned-when-my-child-was-kidnapped#comment-130219">Stu</a>.</p>
<p>I went through exactly this experience and it is ongoing.  Very complicated as my wife took my children to Israel. I got them back through The Hague but was so flustered i split custody with her and she removed them from the US again.  It was all so strange I didn’t know how to think..I would like to be in touch, as fathers that go through this are not a minority but we are a minority’s in connecting and dealing with the reality of loss.  I’m sill at a loss and had symptathy before, and then as on as I allowed the children to be with the mother, when the judge took away her rights, i lost all authority. I never wanted them to not be with their mother..but i was played..it’s just heartbreaking.  You aren’t alone though.</p>
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		By: Sara		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2018 09:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To Jennifer:

Thank you for sharing this.  When my daughter was 2 years old, her father did not return her from a supervised visit (his parents being the supervisors).  My situation was not legally considered kidnapping, because we did not have a custody court order.  He had been using crack on a daily basis at the time.  It was the worst experience in my life.  All I could think about and do was work on getting her back.  I didn&#039;t sleep for days.  I spoke with lawyers and police officers, and was told the only way I could quickly get her back was to wait until he wasn&#039;t physically with her, and pick her up from the people watching her.  I knew this was possible, because he would eventually leave her with someone so he could go somewhere to smoke crack.

Finally, I was informed by a friend who knew him from a recovery group he used to attend she was at his parents house and he was not there.

I did not want to traumatize her with police involvement,  but I knew his parents were not go to willingly give her to me.  I went to the police station in his parent&#039;s town.  I provided proof she was my child.  I told them he had a crack addiction and was actively using the drug.  They escorted me to his parents house, and knocked on their door and told them, legally, they had to allow her to leave with me.  They argued for a minute or so and then they let us all in the house.  I found her napping in a bedroom.  I carefully picked her up and placed her in my car.  We quietly left for home.  She woke up in her own bed and clung to me for days.

Years following this incident,  I was in constant fear she would be taken from me again.

I hold no animosity toward his parents, because, months later, they explained they helped him because they believed the lies about my parenting he told them.  They thought they had been keeping her safe.  They are now involved in both our lives, and know I am a good mother.  With that said, I trust them again.

I no longer hold animosity toward her father.  Mostly because he is her father and is now a good dad, because he has been cleaned for 5 plus years.  I don&#039;t 100% trust him, but she is much older now and, I believe, she would not allow him to keep her against my will.  Plus, she is older now and would remember being traumatized by it and he is now a good father.  For years after he was clean, I still fear she wouldn&#039;t return from her visits with him.  However, I no longer fear it - thank goodness.  It is a horrible feeling.

To all parents who went through a kidnapping, and who currently are - I am so sorry for the pain you are experiencing.  I hope the best for you, and (in a sense) you are not alone.  May he or she return to you soon and may you recover from the trauma.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Jennifer:</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing this.  When my daughter was 2 years old, her father did not return her from a supervised visit (his parents being the supervisors).  My situation was not legally considered kidnapping, because we did not have a custody court order.  He had been using crack on a daily basis at the time.  It was the worst experience in my life.  All I could think about and do was work on getting her back.  I didn&#8217;t sleep for days.  I spoke with lawyers and police officers, and was told the only way I could quickly get her back was to wait until he wasn&#8217;t physically with her, and pick her up from the people watching her.  I knew this was possible, because he would eventually leave her with someone so he could go somewhere to smoke crack.</p>
<p>Finally, I was informed by a friend who knew him from a recovery group he used to attend she was at his parents house and he was not there.</p>
<p>I did not want to traumatize her with police involvement,  but I knew his parents were not go to willingly give her to me.  I went to the police station in his parent&#8217;s town.  I provided proof she was my child.  I told them he had a crack addiction and was actively using the drug.  They escorted me to his parents house, and knocked on their door and told them, legally, they had to allow her to leave with me.  They argued for a minute or so and then they let us all in the house.  I found her napping in a bedroom.  I carefully picked her up and placed her in my car.  We quietly left for home.  She woke up in her own bed and clung to me for days.</p>
<p>Years following this incident,  I was in constant fear she would be taken from me again.</p>
<p>I hold no animosity toward his parents, because, months later, they explained they helped him because they believed the lies about my parenting he told them.  They thought they had been keeping her safe.  They are now involved in both our lives, and know I am a good mother.  With that said, I trust them again.</p>
<p>I no longer hold animosity toward her father.  Mostly because he is her father and is now a good dad, because he has been cleaned for 5 plus years.  I don&#8217;t 100% trust him, but she is much older now and, I believe, she would not allow him to keep her against my will.  Plus, she is older now and would remember being traumatized by it and he is now a good father.  For years after he was clean, I still fear she wouldn&#8217;t return from her visits with him.  However, I no longer fear it &#8211; thank goodness.  It is a horrible feeling.</p>
<p>To all parents who went through a kidnapping, and who currently are &#8211; I am so sorry for the pain you are experiencing.  I hope the best for you, and (in a sense) you are not alone.  May he or she return to you soon and may you recover from the trauma.</p>
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		By: Temmy Ronke		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2018 12:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Nicole LaGrange, I am sorry you are going through this heart-wrenching experience.   Are your present country of residence and the country your child was taken to signatories to the Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of International child abduction? If so, you might be able to seek help by making an application through the Hague Convention for your child&#039;s return.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nicole LaGrange, I am sorry you are going through this heart-wrenching experience.   Are your present country of residence and the country your child was taken to signatories to the Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of International child abduction? If so, you might be able to seek help by making an application through the Hague Convention for your child&#8217;s return.</p>
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		By: Temmy Ronke		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2018 12:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much for this article. It was like you put into words how i feel especially the part about feeling like there is a part of you that lost her. I always feel incomplete, almost like i lost a part of her life. I was able to reunite with my daughter after 4 months of being abducted to another country. I was completely depressed and almost suicidal at the time. Even after 4 years i know i still haven&#039;t recovered from the experience but i thank God every day that i got her back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for this article. It was like you put into words how i feel especially the part about feeling like there is a part of you that lost her. I always feel incomplete, almost like i lost a part of her life. I was able to reunite with my daughter after 4 months of being abducted to another country. I was completely depressed and almost suicidal at the time. Even after 4 years i know i still haven&#8217;t recovered from the experience but i thank God every day that i got her back.</p>
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		By: Nicole LaGrange		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicole LaGrange]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 00:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I feel like I wrote this myself.  Thank you for sharing your story.  My child was also taken from me but with the aid of police.  Does anyone have advice or suggestions on how to proceed in getting her back safely?  The family courts have failed me in this.  Either because I don&#039;t know how to procedurally and correctly request the right order for enforcement by police, or the case I am currently in won&#039;t allow a means to obtain her without risking her harm by proceeding in it.  Thanks again for sharing this.  I appreciate your courage and hope your family is doing better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like I wrote this myself.  Thank you for sharing your story.  My child was also taken from me but with the aid of police.  Does anyone have advice or suggestions on how to proceed in getting her back safely?  The family courts have failed me in this.  Either because I don&#8217;t know how to procedurally and correctly request the right order for enforcement by police, or the case I am currently in won&#8217;t allow a means to obtain her without risking her harm by proceeding in it.  Thanks again for sharing this.  I appreciate your courage and hope your family is doing better.</p>
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		By: CC		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2018 15:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Erin. Meaning no disrespect, but the lack of explaining the situation undermines your credibility. The reader is left to speculate about the actual circumstances of your experience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Erin. Meaning no disrespect, but the lack of explaining the situation undermines your credibility. The reader is left to speculate about the actual circumstances of your experience.</p>
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		By: Heartbroken Daddy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heartbroken Daddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2017 00:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thechaosandtheclutter.com/archives/6-things-i-learned-when-my-child-was-kidnapped#comment-130219&quot;&gt;Stu&lt;/a&gt;.

My situation is almost identical. It is almost a year since my twin sons were abducted by their mother. I have spent all my money on lawyers and doing a Hague application. I feel so confused and hurt, some days I consider suicide as the pain is almost unbearable but I cannot imagine putting my friends and family through such heart-break and never seeing my sons again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thechaosandtheclutter.com/archives/6-things-i-learned-when-my-child-was-kidnapped#comment-130219">Stu</a>.</p>
<p>My situation is almost identical. It is almost a year since my twin sons were abducted by their mother. I have spent all my money on lawyers and doing a Hague application. I feel so confused and hurt, some days I consider suicide as the pain is almost unbearable but I cannot imagine putting my friends and family through such heart-break and never seeing my sons again.</p>
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		By: Demitra Hemphill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Demitra Hemphill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2017 23:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi. Jennifer I understand what you and your family went though. Im actually going though the same thing. However the Police are not considering it parental kidnapping. Im not understanding why they&#039;re not.  Its a shame that any mother and her child should go though obstacles like this. Kidnappings are crimes!!! Kidnappings are serious and the criminal and or criminals need to be arrested. Point blank period. Your story was heartfelt. Im letting you know your story will be heard by many. Laws are about to get questioned?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. Jennifer I understand what you and your family went though. Im actually going though the same thing. However the Police are not considering it parental kidnapping. Im not understanding why they&#8217;re not.  Its a shame that any mother and her child should go though obstacles like this. Kidnappings are crimes!!! Kidnappings are serious and the criminal and or criminals need to be arrested. Point blank period. Your story was heartfelt. Im letting you know your story will be heard by many. Laws are about to get questioned?</p>
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		By: Mana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2017 01:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kia ora Jennifer, it was reassuring to have your website to refer to, my children&#039;s caregivers and I are in kidnapp alert and have a family safety plan in place when they are in my care.  A detective contact my childrens caregivers to alert them to a possible kidnapping by the father.  We are all on high alert which has urged me to google any kind of advice with regards to keeping my children and my family who are the caregivers who lovingly and protectively care for our children.  Emotionally I feel in fight or flight which is fuelled by adrenaline, the most recent access with my children went well with no incidents thank god.  Family members have my children in there care and I share access every school holidays, we all work together as a family with our kids safety and care in mind, I am so lucky to have such awesome supportive carers for my kids as well as being family is even better.  I am trying to focus on what I can do to create a safe place and a plan while my kids are with me, without a plan I would feel totally unprepared for a potential kidnapping, all my family and I can do is follow the safety plan, my kids know that wherever we are I am to give them the car keys and that they are to get to the car and lock themselves in, to not get out, to ring the police and there uncle and wait for them to arrive, and my daughter who is 16 can drive her brother to a safe place if she feels the need to.  At home they are to lock themselves in the car and lock the garage door to the garage, they will call there uncle and the police, they will wait locked in the car for help to arrive.  I will be taking care of the threat inside by locking the house secure and assessing the danger, and to disengage by waiting for help to arrive.  Thank you for sharing your story it has helped me to secure what I already know with regards to kidnapping, that it does not have to be a stranger that it is most likely family which is so true in my case, that my kids father is a real threat to my children being kidnapped, thank-you from MMP, Hastings NZ.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kia ora Jennifer, it was reassuring to have your website to refer to, my children&#8217;s caregivers and I are in kidnapp alert and have a family safety plan in place when they are in my care.  A detective contact my childrens caregivers to alert them to a possible kidnapping by the father.  We are all on high alert which has urged me to google any kind of advice with regards to keeping my children and my family who are the caregivers who lovingly and protectively care for our children.  Emotionally I feel in fight or flight which is fuelled by adrenaline, the most recent access with my children went well with no incidents thank god.  Family members have my children in there care and I share access every school holidays, we all work together as a family with our kids safety and care in mind, I am so lucky to have such awesome supportive carers for my kids as well as being family is even better.  I am trying to focus on what I can do to create a safe place and a plan while my kids are with me, without a plan I would feel totally unprepared for a potential kidnapping, all my family and I can do is follow the safety plan, my kids know that wherever we are I am to give them the car keys and that they are to get to the car and lock themselves in, to not get out, to ring the police and there uncle and wait for them to arrive, and my daughter who is 16 can drive her brother to a safe place if she feels the need to.  At home they are to lock themselves in the car and lock the garage door to the garage, they will call there uncle and the police, they will wait locked in the car for help to arrive.  I will be taking care of the threat inside by locking the house secure and assessing the danger, and to disengage by waiting for help to arrive.  Thank you for sharing your story it has helped me to secure what I already know with regards to kidnapping, that it does not have to be a stranger that it is most likely family which is so true in my case, that my kids father is a real threat to my children being kidnapped, thank-you from MMP, Hastings NZ.</p>
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		By: Dana		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2017 00:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thechaosandtheclutter.com/archives/6-things-i-learned-when-my-child-was-kidnapped#comment-117670&quot;&gt;Jennifer&lt;/a&gt;.

Kiaora.  My 7 year old ADHD son just today decided he was walking to school because he was frustrated with me.  We&#039;d had an argument in the morning about his morning jobs.  I sat at my desk &#038; did some work.  My poor way of taking time out from our shared frustrations.  He decided, for his time out, to sit in the car parked in our very safe private car park (thankfully) in our very safe residential neighbourhood (even more thankful!).  He yelled, &quot;I&#039;m walking to school!&quot;  I thought, well, he won&#039;t get far.  So off I went to follow him.....except I couldn&#039;t find him......anywhere.......at all.  Panic.  Drive around.  More panic.  Get my husband.  Panic.  School.  He&#039;s at school.  

He had started walking.  Then came back.  My car was gone (looking for him) so he started walking again.  School next door to us saw him, took him into school, rang his school, teacher picked him up.  At his school.  I love that school.  I am entirely grateful for the responsible &#038; aware schools in my area.  I. Hated. Every. Minute. I. Couldn&#039;t. See. Him.

It has taken me all day to calm down.  It is taking me all day to calm down.  I keep crying.  What if?  What if?  I can&#039;t think.  I can&#039;t focus on work.  I can&#039;t just get on.  Worst nightmare - my son, my world.  What if?  The incident was bad enough but the emotional aftermath is worse - it stays with me - my fears, my uncried cries - it all stays with me - deep inside, in my heart where he lives &#038; breathes with me.  The terror.  I will never ever forget what happened or could have happened today.  I will never ever forget this terror.  

I am so sorry Jennifer that very very few understood the aftermath for you, let alone the terror filled incident that precipitated the aftermath. I am so sorry you were left alone to deal with all of life in this.  My heart cries out for you &#038; hopes safety is an enveloping gift to you &#038; your family - that you are all wrapped up in it &#038; it guards you.

My hope for you, &#038; me, is that our terror does not revisit us &#038; we outlive all of it with our children.  I&#039;m hoping today I find peace in the aftermath, despite the uncertainties of what could be. Meanwhile I&#039;ll just keep feeling my feelings as they visit me until peace &#038; I become reacquainted again.  Much love.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thechaosandtheclutter.com/archives/6-things-i-learned-when-my-child-was-kidnapped#comment-117670">Jennifer</a>.</p>
<p>Kiaora.  My 7 year old ADHD son just today decided he was walking to school because he was frustrated with me.  We&#8217;d had an argument in the morning about his morning jobs.  I sat at my desk &amp; did some work.  My poor way of taking time out from our shared frustrations.  He decided, for his time out, to sit in the car parked in our very safe private car park (thankfully) in our very safe residential neighbourhood (even more thankful!).  He yelled, &#8220;I&#8217;m walking to school!&#8221;  I thought, well, he won&#8217;t get far.  So off I went to follow him&#8230;..except I couldn&#8217;t find him&#8230;&#8230;anywhere&#8230;&#8230;.at all.  Panic.  Drive around.  More panic.  Get my husband.  Panic.  School.  He&#8217;s at school.  </p>
<p>He had started walking.  Then came back.  My car was gone (looking for him) so he started walking again.  School next door to us saw him, took him into school, rang his school, teacher picked him up.  At his school.  I love that school.  I am entirely grateful for the responsible &amp; aware schools in my area.  I. Hated. Every. Minute. I. Couldn&#8217;t. See. Him.</p>
<p>It has taken me all day to calm down.  It is taking me all day to calm down.  I keep crying.  What if?  What if?  I can&#8217;t think.  I can&#8217;t focus on work.  I can&#8217;t just get on.  Worst nightmare &#8211; my son, my world.  What if?  The incident was bad enough but the emotional aftermath is worse &#8211; it stays with me &#8211; my fears, my uncried cries &#8211; it all stays with me &#8211; deep inside, in my heart where he lives &amp; breathes with me.  The terror.  I will never ever forget what happened or could have happened today.  I will never ever forget this terror.  </p>
<p>I am so sorry Jennifer that very very few understood the aftermath for you, let alone the terror filled incident that precipitated the aftermath. I am so sorry you were left alone to deal with all of life in this.  My heart cries out for you &amp; hopes safety is an enveloping gift to you &amp; your family &#8211; that you are all wrapped up in it &amp; it guards you.</p>
<p>My hope for you, &amp; me, is that our terror does not revisit us &amp; we outlive all of it with our children.  I&#8217;m hoping today I find peace in the aftermath, despite the uncertainties of what could be. Meanwhile I&#8217;ll just keep feeling my feelings as they visit me until peace &amp; I become reacquainted again.  Much love.</p>
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